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no one is sure how speaker boehner proceeds, does he violate the so-called hastert rule again? by the way, as for what the president does tomorrow, don't expect specific legislation. there was some talk that they might do that. i'm told that the congressional hispanic caucus suggested to the white house that that was not necessary, that they would like to see the senate see how this group of eight works before the white house gets in with details on their own legislation. we'll see what happens tomorrow. moving on, it was a case where the picture meant a lot more than the words themselves. sunday on "60 minutes eye," two former rivals sat down for an interview which would have been improbable eight years ago and talked about their relationship today. >> i consider hillary a close friend. >> very warm, close. i think there's a sense of understanding that sometimes doesn't even take words. >> friendships involve a sense of trust and being in the foxhole together and that emerged during the course of months when we were making some very tough decisions. >> the interview was indeed
no one is sure how speaker boehner proceeds, does he violate the so-called hastert rule again? by the way, as for what the president does tomorrow, don't expect specific legislation. there was some talk that they might do that. i'm told that the congressional hispanic caucus suggested to the white house that that was not necessary, that they would like to see the senate see how this group of eight works before the white house gets in with details on their own legislation. we'll see what happens...
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why on earth can't paul ryan, speaker boehner, and the rest of them agree with that statement? what is wrong with that encompassing the people of this country rather than dismissing so many people as takers? why can't they agree with those statements of the president? >> because they agree with the statements by mitt romney, that half of the country are takers, half of them are people that don't contribute to society, half of them don't deserve the benefits that they're entitled to, and that 1% of this country are the people that provide the jobs, provide everything, and they are the richest people in the world, and they didn't make it with any luck. they didn't make it with support. they made it because they were the best of america. 1%, and 99 american people said you couldn't be more wrong than you were on that, and we will show you. and had it not been for reapportionment and state legislatures and republican governors, we would have run back i really believe the house of representatives. we won it by over a million democratic votes, but i tell you this, it's going to be di
why on earth can't paul ryan, speaker boehner, and the rest of them agree with that statement? what is wrong with that encompassing the people of this country rather than dismissing so many people as takers? why can't they agree with those statements of the president? >> because they agree with the statements by mitt romney, that half of the country are takers, half of them are people that don't contribute to society, half of them don't deserve the benefits that they're entitled to, and...
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it's going to be a pretty reasonable bill assuming boehner will cooperate. but then the next question is going to become for republicans are they going to try to disenfranchise the people that they've just allowed to become citizens? because they're not going to solve their problem with hispanics and minorities simply by doing immigration reform. they have to have a kind of transformational change in the way they look at a changing america which is becoming a majority nonwhite nation. >> indeed. well, senator chuck schumer is optimistic about the proposals, and let's hope that he's right. professor bob shrum, victoria defrancesefran chess sowco -- s thank you. >> the president and republicans finally agree the media is biased, but president obama says its fox news that's the problem. really? really? [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholestero
it's going to be a pretty reasonable bill assuming boehner will cooperate. but then the next question is going to become for republicans are they going to try to disenfranchise the people that they've just allowed to become citizens? because they're not going to solve their problem with hispanics and minorities simply by doing immigration reform. they have to have a kind of transformational change in the way they look at a changing america which is becoming a majority nonwhite nation. >>...
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i actually see a bit of a movement in terms of a discussion with the likes of boehner. ryan, i don't know about cantor. the handwriting is on the wall. the electoral handwriting is on the wall. >> they know the numbers and the numbers don't lie as to why people voted for president barack obama. as i said on the commercial, the par problem with the republicans is their brand. they feel it's the party of the 1950s. this party doesn't speak to me. i am 47%. i'm beneath the government. my point is, i think the republicans, particularly some of the leaders in the house are becoming more compassionate about how they express their thoughts, not changing their views, but speaking in a language most say i respectfully disagree with this person, but at least her cares. >> ryan admitted they are playing possum and you are saying they have to pull themselves together in terms of rhetorical strategies, the president is not lame duck. he's riding high on being reelected and reinaugurated. does the state of the union offer him the opportunity while he may be a duck but not lame to set
i actually see a bit of a movement in terms of a discussion with the likes of boehner. ryan, i don't know about cantor. the handwriting is on the wall. the electoral handwriting is on the wall. >> they know the numbers and the numbers don't lie as to why people voted for president barack obama. as i said on the commercial, the par problem with the republicans is their brand. they feel it's the party of the 1950s. this party doesn't speak to me. i am 47%. i'm beneath the government. my...
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not by making a deal with boehner but by picking off republicans. so i think he's not going to triangulate. he'll work the system and will be progressive and doesn't stand for re-election again and so, maybe the real barack obama stood up this week, we saw him, we heard him and, that is where he's going. >> arthel: i want to talk about you for a second, susan. your column, latest column, that you write i don't love politics anymore as my mother would say. what is to love? tell me, you say there is a sharp contrast from the days you showed up in washington and became enamored with the place. >> i fell in love with washington as a kid and when i went there, i would pinch myself, there i was in the capitol and the senate floor with great names of my time and had a girlfriend in the carter years who worked in the white house and there was susan estrich in the white house and it was a time i first got there where you could fight all day with republicans and at the end of the day, you would -- >> arthel: go have a drink or two. >> you remember. you are yo
not by making a deal with boehner but by picking off republicans. so i think he's not going to triangulate. he'll work the system and will be progressive and doesn't stand for re-election again and so, maybe the real barack obama stood up this week, we saw him, we heard him and, that is where he's going. >> arthel: i want to talk about you for a second, susan. your column, latest column, that you write i don't love politics anymore as my mother would say. what is to love? tell me, you say...
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i don't know what got into boehner today. he's too pessimistic. >> i think he's a realist. he famously told harry reid to go and do something that we can't say on the air during the fiscal cliff talks. so, no, the speaker is in high spirits and heeps got a -- he's got a lot more support today -- >> where is this annihilation talk today? >> larry, usually when you no longer have the prospect of a reelection, you become less partisan. he's just trying to nullify his base and check the boxes of those who helped him cross the finish line pip would say it's not the obama people thought they were getting in 2012. >> you see, i think if the republicans hang tough, and i mean tough, tough, tough, tough on this spending sequester, tough, just let it happen, it's the opposite of the tax bill, right? the taxes expired if you did nothing. the spending is cut in you do nothing. i say gop adheres to that and rips the democratic party into multiple pieces. you all democrats cannot take the reduction in social spending. come on, acknowledge that. you won't be able to do it. republicans hav
i don't know what got into boehner today. he's too pessimistic. >> i think he's a realist. he famously told harry reid to go and do something that we can't say on the air during the fiscal cliff talks. so, no, the speaker is in high spirits and heeps got a -- he's got a lot more support today -- >> where is this annihilation talk today? >> larry, usually when you no longer have the prospect of a reelection, you become less partisan. he's just trying to nullify his base and...
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but at the moment they didn't want to deal with them in quite such a pressurized environment so john boehner was able to convince his caucus to accept the council to move past the debt limit. they're now shifting to other fiscal fights and we will have a series through february, march, april, may. which is when the debt limit current extension is going to run out. but i think they're hoping they can take some of the pressure off. >> go ahead. gwen: what are some of the specific fixes here? talk about leadership and they want to talk about leadership and show something different. what are they actually -- >> that's where there's a real disconnect in what the r.n.c. is doing. jindal's speech was all about messaging and framing the party. but when you look at the panel that newly elected r.n.c. chairman ryan previous has put together to come up with specific recommendations how to fix things and improve competitiveness -- gwen: the growth and opportunity project. i love that name. >> yeah, it sounds like a federal bill, doesn't it? >> big government there. >> yes, but they're all tactics. they'
but at the moment they didn't want to deal with them in quite such a pressurized environment so john boehner was able to convince his caucus to accept the council to move past the debt limit. they're now shifting to other fiscal fights and we will have a series through february, march, april, may. which is when the debt limit current extension is going to run out. but i think they're hoping they can take some of the pressure off. >> go ahead. gwen: what are some of the specific fixes...
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john boehner is not elected by the majority of american people. the majority of american people want women to have access to safe and legal abortion. they, on the other hand, many in the house republican caucus are elected by people who very much want them to get in the examining room with a woman and legitima legislate what she can and cannot do. they're stuck. >> angela, this means they learned no lessons on their agenda last year that really hurt them with women voters all over this country? >> i don't think they did. you can look at what they did at the beginning of this congress. and that was elect all white male chairs to committees of influence. and when they realize what they'd done the next day, they had candace miller who had never served on house admin as the chair. i think there's not only a message problem, there really is the fact they just don't understand. i don't know what else to do to help them. you know, i don't really necessarily have interest in seeing that work. but they're totally off message. they're totally not in alignme
john boehner is not elected by the majority of american people. the majority of american people want women to have access to safe and legal abortion. they, on the other hand, many in the house republican caucus are elected by people who very much want them to get in the examining room with a woman and legitima legislate what she can and cannot do. they're stuck. >> angela, this means they learned no lessons on their agenda last year that really hurt them with women voters all over this...
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but his view-- particularly on john boehner-- is that boehner cannot deliver a deal. he can do all the schmoozing he wants but when john boehner, the house speaker, goes back to his caucus they are driven and ruled by imperatives that are impervious to schmoozing and this that's basically their constituents at home and therefore if boehner can't help him make a deal he has to find some other kind of leverage and that comes from the outside which is why in the inaugural address today the president talked about voters and said we have to do it not through our votes but our voices that's why he's organizing america for action, to try and build pressure from the outside that will somehow work on lawmakers. he's tried that before but they're recommitted it-to-it now that's given up on dealing with congress directly. >> if you took the 2001 most influential people in washington 2000 of them if you them in a room and ask them to chat about the topics, the president's lack of willingness to reach out to congress very much, his lack of feel for the importance of relationships,
but his view-- particularly on john boehner-- is that boehner cannot deliver a deal. he can do all the schmoozing he wants but when john boehner, the house speaker, goes back to his caucus they are driven and ruled by imperatives that are impervious to schmoozing and this that's basically their constituents at home and therefore if boehner can't help him make a deal he has to find some other kind of leverage and that comes from the outside which is why in the inaugural address today the...
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there's a new debt ceiling plan from speaker john boehner and the house republicans that could force senate democrats to finally show their hand and pass a budget. plus it's only day four of president obama's second term, but joe biden is already commenting on possibly running for the top job himself in 2016. we'll show you what he said in a minute. first the new developments in the debate over guns in america. the national rifle association last night delivered a sharp response to president obama's inaugural address. speaking in reno, nevada, way waywayn wayne lapierre lashed out at one word from president obama. >> we cannot mistake absolutism, or treat name calling as reasoned debate. >> obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word, just another word for extremism. he wants you, all of you, and americans throughout all of this country, to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. it's a way of redefining words so that commonsense is turned upside down and that nobody knows the difference. >> lapierre vowed not to give ground on gun control including efforts to
there's a new debt ceiling plan from speaker john boehner and the house republicans that could force senate democrats to finally show their hand and pass a budget. plus it's only day four of president obama's second term, but joe biden is already commenting on possibly running for the top job himself in 2016. we'll show you what he said in a minute. first the new developments in the debate over guns in america. the national rifle association last night delivered a sharp response to president...
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. >>> john boehner says president obama is trying to annihilate the republican party. but up next, i'll explain why the gop is kind of doing a good job of it itself. and on that path, some republicans are trying to gerrymander it. some are saying we can't change the rules of the presidential election just because we lost one. meanwhile, threatening to filibuster, a deal was reached. others say it doesn't reform anything. >>> and crazy things happening in washington, we'll let you weigh in on the scandal of the week. ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. obfusc . >>> ryan's new budget is not the only really, really odd fight that republicans are about to pick. they have ano
. >>> john boehner says president obama is trying to annihilate the republican party. but up next, i'll explain why the gop is kind of doing a good job of it itself. and on that path, some republicans are trying to gerrymander it. some are saying we can't change the rules of the presidential election just because we lost one. meanwhile, threatening to filibuster, a deal was reached. others say it doesn't reform anything. >>> and crazy things happening in washington, we'll let...
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beyonce sang, boehner went wept, and we were able to see what an inauguration party looked like. last saturday was gun appreciation day lead to go five accidental shootings nationwide. next saturday it's running with scissors appreciate day. today is the birthday of attorney general eric holder, j master j and 36 years ago my friends president jimmy carter pardoned the vietnam war draft evaders. and george w bush, dick cheney and mitt romney didn't show up. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> john: good evening, i'm john fugelsang. this is "viewpoint." thank you for spending your martin luther king jr. holiday with us. president obama marked his second inauguration at president with a speech that was less lofty and a lot of more lefty than his first time around. after taking the oath of office from chief justice john roberts mr. obama outlined a wish-list of progressive policies and programs for the next four years and called for collective action to put them in practice. >> obama: now more than ever we must do these things together as one nation and one people. we the people, understand
beyonce sang, boehner went wept, and we were able to see what an inauguration party looked like. last saturday was gun appreciation day lead to go five accidental shootings nationwide. next saturday it's running with scissors appreciate day. today is the birthday of attorney general eric holder, j master j and 36 years ago my friends president jimmy carter pardoned the vietnam war draft evaders. and george w bush, dick cheney and mitt romney didn't show up. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >>...
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speaker boehner is basically whining like a coach who's had the score run up on him. i mean, boehner has a little less swagger than he did two years ago when he took over the house with this wave of tea party republicans, but what a difference a couple of years makes. president obama is not the only one who benefits from contrasting himself with the republican party. governors like chris christie and bobby jindal take occasional shots at their own party and look almost mainstream by comparison. for the record, white house press secretary jay carney said today that the president believes a strong two-party system is the foundation of our democracy. let's bring in msnbc political analyst richard wolffe and vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com. richard, great to have you on always. >> thanks, ed. >> no one, including president obama, has the power to shove the gop into the dustbin of history unless they of course do it themselves. your thoughts. >> yeah, look. for a start, john boehner may think that he needs to gin up some enthusiasm among depressed donors o
speaker boehner is basically whining like a coach who's had the score run up on him. i mean, boehner has a little less swagger than he did two years ago when he took over the house with this wave of tea party republicans, but what a difference a couple of years makes. president obama is not the only one who benefits from contrasting himself with the republican party. governors like chris christie and bobby jindal take occasional shots at their own party and look almost mainstream by comparison....
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and by debby boehner, wife of house speaker john boehner. sorry to interrupt you there. >> more recently, you may disagree with the content and the tone but no one will dispute the fact that george w. bush was aiming for the bleachers with his second inaugural with what he called his freedom speech which is -- in terms of projecting american force, moral and military around the world in the wake of 9/11 and the doctrine of preemptive military action. >> you knows the reference to lincoln, we talk about being in a divided america now. in many ways we are politically. but you think about lincoln and that inauguration, both of his, it was a different level. >> different level all together. he is involved in the conflict where half a million people would be killed, the end of channeled slavery. a lot is at stake. we're fighting now but not anywhere like that, thank god. >> we're about to see the introduction of the first lady of the united states, michelle obama. as you watched her grow in this role the last four years, what do you think? >> wel
and by debby boehner, wife of house speaker john boehner. sorry to interrupt you there. >> more recently, you may disagree with the content and the tone but no one will dispute the fact that george w. bush was aiming for the bleachers with his second inaugural with what he called his freedom speech which is -- in terms of projecting american force, moral and military around the world in the wake of 9/11 and the doctrine of preemptive military action. >> you knows the reference to...
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you can say if you're john boehner, well, that's fantastic. democrats, this is a democratic -- this is a democratic plan. you guys want it. it's a priority for you. guess what? you control the senate. you guys -- you guys pass global warming in the legislation in the senate, then we'll look at it in the house. gay marriage, fantastic. we are open to whatever you pass. that's your top priority, great. why don't you guys in the senate pass it, and then we'll look at it. and you can do the same thing with gun control, actually an issue that matters a great deal to me. actually, not gun control but assault weapons control. again, do what they did before. pass that in the senate and let them do that and say, but i'll tell you what we're going to focus on. we're going to focus on the house on getting people back to work, saving entitlement programs, and taking care of the crushing debt and making the tax code simpler, making the tax code fair. we're going to take care of the meat and potatoes issues over here. we're going to take care of making soci
you can say if you're john boehner, well, that's fantastic. democrats, this is a democratic -- this is a democratic plan. you guys want it. it's a priority for you. guess what? you control the senate. you guys -- you guys pass global warming in the legislation in the senate, then we'll look at it in the house. gay marriage, fantastic. we are open to whatever you pass. that's your top priority, great. why don't you guys in the senate pass it, and then we'll look at it. and you can do the same...
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even john boehner said now is the time to deal with immigration. but, you know the questions you were just talking about. is will some of your colleagues on the far right, tea partyiers, perhaps, support this path to citizenship for illegal immigrants? >> well, you know, jackie kucinich had it exactly right. this has the prospect of s success. it's all about whether house republicans are willing to stand up to the tea party base. you've got a bipartisan group of senators left and right advocating a path forward. you've got the president of the united states who will unveil his views on a path forward. what this comes down to now is will these house republicans who have pandered to their intolerant tea party base, who have fed into the extremism of that tea party base, are they willing to stand up to the tea party and do what's right for america? we'll see whether they're able to amass the votes to get us forward. >> they might see this is amnesty. what would you say? >> well, you know what? i'm interested in solutions. i'm not interested in rhetori
even john boehner said now is the time to deal with immigration. but, you know the questions you were just talking about. is will some of your colleagues on the far right, tea partyiers, perhaps, support this path to citizenship for illegal immigrants? >> well, you know, jackie kucinich had it exactly right. this has the prospect of s success. it's all about whether house republicans are willing to stand up to the tea party base. you've got a bipartisan group of senators left and right...
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>> boehner successfully corralled those members yesterday, though. the house passed a bill to suspend the debt ceiling for four months until may 19th, avoiding a showdown over the federal borrowing limit. backing off a demand for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts. house republicans, instead, added a no-budget, no-pay provision to the bill, which would withhold lawmakers' paychecks if they failed to pass a budget and attempt to embarrass the senate and refocus the fight there instead of on the president. >> breaching the debt limit, which some of our members have been pretty anxious to do. that's playing with fire. and no one really knows what will happen, but i'm not quite sure i want to look over the evening of the cliff. >> boehner also promised the new house republican budget will balance in ten years. the guy leading that charge, paul ryan, broke his silence yesterday about the 2012 election. >> the only regret i have is we lost. i think it's closer than you think. the big debate that reinvolvolv, you know, they really did a phenomenal job on techn
>> boehner successfully corralled those members yesterday, though. the house passed a bill to suspend the debt ceiling for four months until may 19th, avoiding a showdown over the federal borrowing limit. backing off a demand for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts. house republicans, instead, added a no-budget, no-pay provision to the bill, which would withhold lawmakers' paychecks if they failed to pass a budget and attempt to embarrass the senate and refocus the fight there instead of on...
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. >>> john boehner says president obama is trying to annihilate the republican party. but up next, i'll explain why the gop is kind of doing a good job of it itself. and on that path, some republicans are trying to gerrymander it. some are saying we can't change the rules of the presidential election just because we lost one. meanwhile, threatening to filibuster, a deal was reached. others say it doesn't reform anything. >>> and crazy things happening in washington, we'll let you weigh in on the scandal of the week. nobody said an inkjet had to be slow. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this co
. >>> john boehner says president obama is trying to annihilate the republican party. but up next, i'll explain why the gop is kind of doing a good job of it itself. and on that path, some republicans are trying to gerrymander it. some are saying we can't change the rules of the presidential election just because we lost one. meanwhile, threatening to filibuster, a deal was reached. others say it doesn't reform anything. >>> and crazy things happening in washington, we'll let...
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in the house, speaker john boehner says he remains optimistic in legislation moving forward. republican congressman mario diaz-balart says he has been working with democrats in his chamber. >> we've seen that the speaker has said he wants to get it done. we've seen what the minority leader says that they want to get it done. here is the good news. a group of us have been ready for years. we've worked out most of the complicated details. you know the devil is in the detail. well, we've dealt with that devil. now it's an issue of just filing legislation and hopefully get it passed. >> yes, republicans everywhere are talking sensibly about the importance of getting 11 million people out of the shadows. >> we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> and here is why senators like john mccain understand the need for republicans to focus on immigration reform. >> elections. elections. the republican party is losi
in the house, speaker john boehner says he remains optimistic in legislation moving forward. republican congressman mario diaz-balart says he has been working with democrats in his chamber. >> we've seen that the speaker has said he wants to get it done. we've seen what the minority leader says that they want to get it done. here is the good news. a group of us have been ready for years. we've worked out most of the complicated details. you know the devil is in the detail. well, we've...
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i thought this was a good day for john boehner who has had a lot of bad days in leading the house. this was a crase where they had a retreat last weekend. people who were there said it was a very som bell retreat and they agreed to back the speaker. that wouldn't seem remarkable except in the past sometimes they have not been willing to do that. >> ifill: here's i guess the big question, when they say they want to reach across the aisle, when they say they want to talk to democrats, they want to engage, is that real? and is it even necessary? >> well, i think-- i think they want to engage as a way-- as part of the process of achieving their ends. you know, this day andig, everybody says "let's sit and talk." at the end of the day, wield talk and you agree with me and move on to the next subject and you can agree with me as well. that's the way both parties operate. i think the democrats did it much better the last year. the democrats will got a lot of mileage about attacking the republicans for not compromising, and yet most members of the congress, democratic members, seem willing
i thought this was a good day for john boehner who has had a lot of bad days in leading the house. this was a crase where they had a retreat last weekend. people who were there said it was a very som bell retreat and they agreed to back the speaker. that wouldn't seem remarkable except in the past sometimes they have not been willing to do that. >> ifill: here's i guess the big question, when they say they want to reach across the aisle, when they say they want to talk to democrats, they...
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. >> house speaker john boehner said the deal is practically done. is that what you hear? >> i know there's been serious negotiation on our side in the house and in the senate. and usually it's tough to get to that point, so the fact that we have gotten there is a good sign. >> the path to citizenship seems to be the sticking point for a lot of lawmakers stil lawmaker. if there's a path to citizenship does there have to be a penalty for the 11 million or so folks that are here illegally? >> for some, i think that is fair. but for the dreamers, who are here as kids. they are blameless, i do not think a fine is appropriate. but for some who clearly broke the law, i think it is. i think that we will see some kind of agreement that is maybe not the perfect agreement for either party but works for the country. >> timeline, are we looking late spring? late summer? >> i think so. you know, as you all know, it's been slow going in the congress right now. i think things will pick up in the later spring and get heavy in the summer. >> senator marco rubio getting ready to join the bi
. >> house speaker john boehner said the deal is practically done. is that what you hear? >> i know there's been serious negotiation on our side in the house and in the senate. and usually it's tough to get to that point, so the fact that we have gotten there is a good sign. >> the path to citizenship seems to be the sticking point for a lot of lawmakers stil lawmaker. if there's a path to citizenship does there have to be a penalty for the 11 million or so folks that are here...
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what does speaker boehner have to do to get things through this house gop conference for these next two -- it's a very difficult thing. >> it is. he still hasn't proven that he can. frankly even this debt deal that he did lost three republican members. you can't do that and pass a budget because most likely he's only going to be able to pass it to start with, with republicans. so he has a tough job because he hasn't proven he can yet. this is a very diverse conference. more diverse than people think on the issues, number one. number two, they don't know each other yet. we were talking about this in the green room. 40% of the congress are within the last two years. they've just come in. they don't even know each other in the same party. >> sequestered not in the -- like in a jury. locked in a room. >> locked in a room. get to know one another. >> i think boehner may have made a strategic error when he promised conservatives that paul ryan would pass a budget that would balance, in ten years -- ten years. paul ryan's last budget didn't balance until 2014. >> it's tougher than it sounds. >
what does speaker boehner have to do to get things through this house gop conference for these next two -- it's a very difficult thing. >> it is. he still hasn't proven that he can. frankly even this debt deal that he did lost three republican members. you can't do that and pass a budget because most likely he's only going to be able to pass it to start with, with republicans. so he has a tough job because he hasn't proven he can yet. this is a very diverse conference. more diverse than...